servers with no teamdamage

[daredevil]

Doesn't that indicates that many players like those settings? You are beating around the dead horse.

What your thinking is, if I don't like server settings of jaymod, with fast shooting and FF off, then they should be removed from rating.

At first you started topic saying you don't like FF off servers and all FF off servers are LMAO. Now you are saying, short spawn time is useless and it looks like soon again you will again change your opinion. I personally think you are confused person, who just doesn't know what he wants.

You should play BC2 more often and quit ET, if stats and rating is more important to you. BC2 is all about stats and ranks. W:ET is more about fun.

OR

If you don't like present system which supports all type of servers, why not just add one more tracker which tracks only Etpro servers? Why not just play on Etpro servers? In this way, world will have 3 trackers. TB, SL, and your own.

If you can't rate on Etpro, then it's not other players/admin problem. If you are only playing for rating, then you should \quit ET.

[Belo]

Nope the "advanced players" servers means servers like Kernwaffe, BBA or something like this .. that's what i understood, cause this isnt my words.

But you are right, servers with unlimited reload bar like wood should be disable, too much whorers are using this.

Anyway, if you want a fair top ranking, we need something based on kills/deaths ratio, not on XP .. Feel free to re-code ET

[daredevil]

Nope the "advanced players" servers means servers like Kernwaffe, BBA or something like this .. that's what i understood, cause this isnt my words.

BBA and Kernwaffe are kind of same.

i.e. 40 slots+, fast moving, adren, etc.

Also, to me it looks like, mojo.et will soon complain about those servers also, saying those are cheat servers since, there are no cvar or md5 scans.

If you visit BBA or Kernwaffe and do \pb_cvarlist there is no cheat scans. i.e. any public hack will work there which are busted by cvar and md5 scans.

Mojo, just make your own tracking system and you will be happy

I personally, feel mojo.et should play BC2 since he likes stats and rating. BC2 is all about stats and ranks.

[harlekin]

Doesn't that indicates that many players like those settings?

The ammount of earned XP does not indicate the ammount of players that like theese settings/mods, as more that theese settings/mods tend to raise the ammount of gained XP.

If you don't like present system which supports all type of servers, why not just add one more tracker which tracks only Etpro servers? Why not just play on Etpro servers? In this way, world will have 3 trackers. TB, SL, and your own.

TB & SL are atm pretty much the same, at least i dont see much difference. Mods are not equal or same, else they would not exist. How about tracking hl2 mods and put them all in one db and make a ranking afterwards, would that be what it's meant to be?

Mojo, just make your own tracking system and you will be happy

This is more then simple tracking system as it includes also ranking. I think this thread was just openend to point out that things (settings/mods) are not equal but rated in the same way.

I personally, feel mojo.et should play BC2 since he likes stats and rating. BC2 is all about stats and ranks.

Then tell my why you are here if it is not about the ranking?

But you are right, servers with unlimited reload bar like wood should be disable, too much whorers are using this.

This might produce to much work as for each "such" server a ticket needs to be filled, checked, possibility to be appealed by server owner, re-checked after settings have changed, re-enabled, ... ,..

My opinion: Don't exclude something from ranking, as everything (well cheats and stuff for sure not) that exists in ET keeps it alive (ain't that the thing what we like?). Just seperate things that are not equal (Mods/Special settings/Server Versions).

[harlekin]

Anyway, if you want a fair top ranking, we need something based on kills/deaths ratio, not on XP .. Feel free to re-code ET

Even that would not be fair. Ammo/Medpacks/syringe/... would drop out of the ranking. Only thing we got is XP wich is best.

[Spl@$h~]

TB & SL are atm pretty much the same, at least i dont see much difference.

You little genius , waiting for your formula to make a difference , i bet you can do it ...
About the difference ofcourse there is not much difference what did you expect ? Why SL still the same after 6 years old ?
If you are not able to read , which changes have been made , its not my fault ..
The point is SL or TB are buddylist /servers and rating tracker.
Now most ppl you will see regularly there are rating players , ppl playing for rating , since sl is bugged many stop or got bored of rating and dont know if you noticed but since 3-4 months SL is dying pretty hard.
At least TB isnt bugged about rating , so for a large part of ET players , this is a difference , and hope to see old players coming back to ET .

Now about mojo , you are suggesting something based on you only .. + i bet you play ETPRO :o
so why do you care that much about those servers wood turkish or fa ? maybe because you tried to play there once and got rolled ?
If you dont like these servers just dont go there, why do you think these servers are so popular ? because ppl enjoying the way it is ..

If we "eventually" do as you suggested , i bet no one will play for rating ... and TB will be a fail thats all.(i guess you dont really care , nvm how many hours it takes to do something like that)
I guess you never tried to rate on a server with FF is on and 30 secs spawntime ..
you play like 15 or 20 mins maximum of a 30 mins map .If thats what you having fun with ... go to scrim / play for CB or other things like that.

Now feel free to put your arguments on SL to see if they give a shit , or yeah create your own tracker , lets see how long its gonna take.

Suggestion should be make to improve something , and not the opposite , dont see in what its gonna make TB better to only rate servers with ff on ..
Now glad you gave your opinion , but thats not gonna happen.
It would be greatly appreciated to have suggestions to make TB better.

Now about

Just seperate things that are not equal (Mods/Special settings/Server Versions).

Its already suggested , and waiting to see if thats doable or not

[csl]

You should play BC2 more often and quit ET, if stats and rating is more important to you. BC2 is all about stats and ranks. W:ET is more about fun.

I agree with Daredevil.

Et is the grandfather of multiplayer FPS games.

Maybe if there were ranked servers from the beginning clans like Kapoks would still be playing ET.

After 7 years ET is about fun. Now that the source code is out there can even be funkier MODS and more fun. If you want serious join the marines.

[Belo]

Even that would not be fair. Ammo/Medpacks/syringe/... would drop out of the ranking. Only thing we got is XP wich is best.

It would be, at least more than now ... In what giving ammo or medpacks requires skill? Every random guy is able to make this

Just look at the current top 10, half are whorers

[daredevil]

The ammount of earned XP does not indicate the ammount of players that like theese settings/mods, as more that theese settings/mods tend to raise the ammount of gained XP.

Incorrect. I was not all saying based on XP. I was just replying when OP posted above with comment: "(buddies/fav servers)" in his previous post. When any server as more buddies/fav then it means more players like that server.

TB & SL are atm pretty much the same, at least i dont see much difference. Mods are not equal or same, else they would not exist. How about tracking hl2 mods and put them all in one db and make a ranking afterwards, would that be what it's meant to be?

TB and SL are pretty much same because both work on XP. If you need different system, feel free to add VSP stats.

They can always add different rating for different mod, but matter of time, few other lamer again start crying here for, hey that Etpro server is having short spawn times and they have FF off, so please remove that server from rating.


This is more then simple tracking system as it includes also ranking. I think this thread was just openend to point out that things (settings/mods) are not equal but rated in the same way.

If you ever read the first post of OP, he clearly said FF OFF servers are lmao. He never mentioned rating differently for different mods. To me it looked like he was just jealous and only playing for rating because on each of his subsequent post, he kept changing his theory.


Then tell my why you are here if it is not about the ranking?

I am here to talk with my friends and play with them. I pick server based on settings I like. I could care less if I have 0 rate or 20 rating. Rating doesn't make me rich $$ or neither it gives me fun. I like to play with friends, shoot on there head and win some maps with them using same FT and thats what all about it is.

My opinion: Don't exclude something from ranking, as everything (well cheats and stuff for sure not) that exists in ET keeps it alive (ain't that the thing what we like?). Just seperate things that are not equal (Mods/Special settings/Server Versions).

Why not? Then soon, we need to add different rating system for the servers running cvar + md5 scans and streaming to PBBans and also differently for running SLAC.

I am not sure, where you come from, but everyone knows there are tons of cheat for ET. It doesn't keep it alive but it kills and hence admins use cvar + md5 scans and stream to PBBans and other AC sites.

If you are that much concerned about stats, just run VSP stats on your server or suggest to the admin where you play on. With VSP stats you can see kills, deaths, etc etc. No matter what you do there will be always players who will whore, since system is based on XP.

The first post in topic in itself is useless and is having lame argument of FF OFF = LMAO servers. If someone doesn't like FF off, then that doesn't mean each server admin should please him and everyone should run server with FF ON. His next argument of 40 slots and other things was also pathetic. Just don't visit servers with 40 slot and thats being it.

W:ET is still running good because of different settings, mods, etc. BC2 is all about stats and ranks... Thats why there is no modding in BC2.

If mojo.et had made topic starting with, is it possible to add different rating system for each mod, then people would had add more suggestions and even topic would be interesting to develop on something. But he started topic with lame reasons that FF OFF servers should be disabled from ranking.

It would be nice to have different rating for Etpro, Jaymod, NQ, Etpub, etc and on top, differentiate server based on running cheat scans, streaming to AC sites, running SLAC or not, etc. But don't you think, people would just exploit it again, since everything here works on XP?

Also, we should add one common section, where admins can report cheaters and then TB can disable there rating. Looks like too much work for Paul and his team for fun 'free' game. Might just want to hire full time employees who get paid for working all this hours and keeping an eye on all reported players.

Best thing would be to code something by which server reports kills and deaths rather then XP and based on that rating should be calculated.

[Spl@$h~]

Best thing would be to code something by which server reports kills and deaths rather then XP and based on that rating should be calculated.

Yeah true , well i've seen about a W:ET update .. some ET fans apparently with knowledges will try to do something with ET. like W:ET 2

Now cant remember where i saw it .. so dont know more details.