servers with no teamdamage

[Sickness]

Tbh the beginners argument is useless, people who start playing on FF off servers will keep playing like that not caring if they hit teamers or not while on servers with FF on they would get kicked after a few annoyances and would actually have to learn quickly to play with FF on if they want to keep playing on a specific server.

As for the ranking, the whole ranking system has been biased on SL and will be the same here.
The real top players could kick the ass of anyone in the top 100 on SL but they're listed > 1000/2000 because they don't play on servers where they have 5 sec respawns, fully ranked classes on join and ff disabled.
The top -ranked- players will always be jaymod players who only play on their steady 200.000.000 XP save servers with 5 sec respawns.

I'm just noting this for the sake of this argument, I don't care about the stats but I do find trackers like tb/sl very usefull, the ranks are just a fun feature for whoever cares

[Adrian]

Sickness try say : i only do rrating in etpro servers so its harder

[mojo.et]

sickness, thats the point.

afaik tb was founded, because of the lack of not beeing able to reserve your nick for yourself only. you can block your nick now.

but the lamo servers are still rated.

and thats why i opened this thread.

greetz,
mojo

[Spl@$h~]

Well this thread isnt about if servers should have or no FF activated but to get them disabled from ranking.
on SL servers like that are ranked for years , friendly fire off isnt a cheat and does not modifiy xp value or anything else ..
So no point to disabled those servers.

[mojo.et]

/..friendly fire off isnt a cheat and does not modifiy xp value or anything else ../..

wrong. it modifies your earned xp indirectly. you can call an arty f.o. on a well used way, killing ONLY the enemies. so you can spam on a 40+plrs server without get minus xp for tdmg, and tk. or beeing kicked for too much tdmg. you can lame on that servers with every splashdmg-wpn like riffle, pf, mortar. and thats the point, why i think, that kind of servers should be excluded from rating. because you can camp with fops/sdr/riffle only, and get a very high score. without 1 real fight.

but thats my opinion.

[Paul]

wrong. it modifies your earned xp indirectly. you can call an arty f.o. on a well used way, killing ONLY the enemies. so you can spam on a 40+plrs server without get minus xp for tdmg, and tk. or beeing kicked for too much tdmg. you can lame on that servers with every splashdmg-wpn like riffle, pf, mortar. and thats the point, why i think, that kind of servers should be excluded from rating. because you can camp with fops/sdr/riffle only, and get a very high score. without 1 real fight.

but thats my opinion.

You're right in there, but notice this counts for everyplayer so everybody will have the same extra's but also the downsides - eventually making it quite the same.

[harlekin]

You're right in there, but notice this counts for everyplayer so everybody will have the same extra's but also the downsides - eventually making it quite the same.

Only for the palyers on a ff off server.

If it is usefull for beginners or not and even if they will ever learn to decide enemy from teammates ain't the point. It's more to seperate Beginners from "Advanced" players. As it looks like that most agree on ff off servers are for beginners. Why don't seperate them?

[Belo]

I don't see the point... As in every game, people try to use the easier way to get on top, nothing weird.. If you wanna get on top, then use it too.

I personnally don't play so much on your "advanced players" servers as in past, cause i got tired of all these teamkills.

Making all servers the same, THIS would be lame... (But have to agree with you, Wood is lame .. full of kids and whorers)

[Sizer]

Some ppl prefer teamplay while others only frag,they are just different playing styles.Same goes for ff on or off,you have to adjust to it.I play both styles servers,if you seperate the servers I would have to manage my rate on 2 seperate score boards.... :s.
I know plenty of players who score awesome on ff/on servers,although they're maybe not on top of the list.Maybe it's the fact that on ff/on servers you get less beginners so scoring is less high due to the quantity of advanced players,just saying...

[mojo.et]

I don't see the point... As in every game, people try to use the easier way to get on top, nothing weird.. If you wanna get on top, then use it too.

I personnally don't play so much on your "advanced players" servers as in past, cause i got tired of all these teamkills.

Making all servers the same, THIS would be lame... (But have to agree with you, Wood is lame .. full of kids and whorers)

1. right. why not. but whats the difference between sl and tb then? on both ladders the "beginners", and with beginnres i mean the top 10 of each ladder, are playing on the FF-off FA-BEGINNERS server. 40plrs+, no FF. the biggest diff atm are the faster loading times. (buddies/fav servers)

2. the servers you call "advance" are STANDARD servers. servers with double jump, inf adr, 8secs respawn, FF off a.s.o. are, imo, servers that shoulnd be rated.

3. wrong. you dont have to rate even servers only, but EQUAL.

i dont have a prob with FFoff servers generally, but in combination with very short respawn time, shorter reload time for FOps/HW-plrs and 40+ plrs slots; thats too much.

greetz,
mojo